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Offline Maik

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Re: Agreement
« Reply #25 on: Friday, 17 July, 2015 @ 15:28:30 »
Not an entirely new idea:

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Germany, Not Greece, Should Exit the Euro
http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-07-17/germany-not-greece-should-exit-the-euro

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Re: Agreement
« Reply #26 on: Friday, 17 July, 2015 @ 23:31:10 »
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Greece should seize Germany's botched offer of a velvet Grexit
The Versailles terms imposed on Germany in 1919 were vindictive and narrow-minded, but not beyond reach. Greece is being told to do the impossible
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/11744305/Greece-should-seize-Germanys-botched-offer-of-a-velvet-Grexit.html

As the reparations demanded after WW1 were never paid back in full they were obviously beyond the reach of a country that never intended to reach out for them.  Of course, the Daily Tory would forget that.

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Re: Agreement
« Reply #27 on: Saturday, 18 July, 2015 @ 14:08:54 »
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Greece debt crisis: Reforms 'going to fail' - Varoufakis

In a damning assessment, Mr Varoufakis told the BBC's Mark Lobel: "This programme is going to fail whoever undertakes its implementation."

Asked how long that would take, he replied: "It has failed already."
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-33578778


Off topic... or maybe not...

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Fit for an emperor, EU diplomats plan £2 million dinner service
Crystal whisky glasses, silver candelabras and fine china decorated with gold EU flags to form glittering dinner service for Brussels' ascendant diplomatic corps

The dinner service, which stands to be larger and nearly ten times the cost of one recently purchased for the White House... 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/11747506/eu-diplomats-plan-fine-dining-service.html

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Re: Agreement
« Reply #28 on: Sunday, 19 July, 2015 @ 08:12:08 »

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Re: Agreement
« Reply #29 on: Sunday, 19 July, 2015 @ 16:27:19 »
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It is idiocy to force Greece to raise taxes - it's terrible for economic growth

Putting up taxes unthinkingly is bad for economic growth and often actually leads to lower tax revenues to government.

If you raise the tax on business activity there is less incentive to expand and to make profit. Why work harder if the government is going to take more money? What is more, if you raise taxes carelessly it may act as an incentive to tax avoidance – legal measures to reduce your tax bill – or even outright tax evasion.

This is a widely held view and one which has considerable merit. But apparently it does not apply to Greece. The eurozone has decided that to renew Greece’s economy and to boost tax revenues, the appropriate policy is to jack up taxes. And not just any taxes, but VAT on leisure activities and on holiday islands, Greece’s prime industry and its biggest source of outside income.

This is quite simply idiocy. This entire issue has been poisoned by too much moralising and too much politics. The objectives appear to be either to punish Greeks for alleged fecklessness, or simply to make its position in the euro intolerable – forcing an exit.

Whatever the failings of Greece in the past, they will not be rectified by these policies. In fact, convincing Greek business to stop dodging VAT and pay its fair share will not be helped by raising VAT rates.

Greece’s politicians and its people need to use this period of calm to prepare for an orderly exit – and to default on their debts.
http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/comment/article-3166406/SIMON-WATKINS-Greece-s-politicians-people-need-use-period-calm-prepare-orderly-euro-exit-default-debts.html

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Re: Agreement
« Reply #30 on: Monday, 20 July, 2015 @ 14:42:13 »
Quite an interesting read:

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Greece debt crisis: Beware plausible stories - there are times when only statistics will do
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/comment/greece-debt-crisis-live-beware-plausible-stories--there-are-times-when-only-statistics-will-do-10400686.html

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Re: Agreement
« Reply #31 on: Monday, 20 July, 2015 @ 21:37:49 »
How many of the billions of Euros associated with this "Agreement" (this is an Agreement...??) will be applied to those areas of the Greek economy that need it most - unemployment, healthcare, the elderly, the disabled, the young..?  And how many of these billions will simply be used to repay the lenders of the previous "Agreements"...?


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Re: Agreement
« Reply #32 on: Monday, 20 July, 2015 @ 22:50:02 »
Just a thought. There's talk of prices going up because of the VAT increase. I don't remember prices going down when VAT was reduced in 2013.

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Re: Agreement
« Reply #33 on: Tuesday, 21 July, 2015 @ 07:26:27 »
Same happened in England! Poundland never did reduce their prices!

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Re: Agreement
« Reply #34 on: Tuesday, 21 July, 2015 @ 14:24:13 »
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Angela Merkel’s coalition split over Wolfgang Schaeuble’s Greece opposition
Influential finance minister has threatened to resign if further Greece concessions made
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/11752444/Angela-Merkels-coalition-split-over-Wolfgang-Schaeubles-Greece-opposition.html

'Tis a very fragile 'agreement'.

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Re: Agreement
« Reply #35 on: Tuesday, 21 July, 2015 @ 14:32:55 »
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Greek euro exit back on the agenda next year, economists say

There’s still a danger that Greece will be forced out of the euro region by the end of 2016, according to 71 percent of respondents in a Bloomberg survey of 34 economists.
http://www.ekathimerini.com/199764/article/ekathimerini/business/greek-euro-exit-back-on-the-agenda-next-year-economists-say

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Re: Agreement
« Reply #36 on: Tuesday, 21 July, 2015 @ 15:46:36 »
 Dr. Stranglove's resignation would not be total disaster - for Germany, or several other countries.

Frau Tante Merkle seems to be keeping him close in order to limit the damage he is causing ( " better in the tent pi**ing out, than outside pi**ing in on us " )

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