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Title: New swimming pool for Katelios
Post by: Jolly Roger on Thursday, 15 January, 2015 @ 15:58:51
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A new swimming pool is being constructed close to Katelios beach. This will adjoin Notos Apartments, but is likely to be open to visitors.
Title: Re: New swimming pool for Katelios
Post by: TonyKath on Thursday, 15 January, 2015 @ 19:50:08
Thanks Roger - very eagle-eyed!  Looks like it's on the "back road behind the tavernas.  We quite like a stroll along there where it seems very undeveloped.  Possibly changing now??

Tony
Title: Re: New swimming pool for Katelios
Post by: Aristarches on Friday, 16 January, 2015 @ 11:14:41
To paraphrase our Winnie "This is not the end of the beginning but the beginning of the end".  For Katelios that is.

Putting a swimming pool within yards of the beach has got to rank as one of the most stupid excrescences of tourism in Kef.  Along with the threatened "Glamping" site (now, thankfully, postponed).

The first few pebbles of ruination were the sum loungers now we are threatened with an avalanche that will  destroy Katelios as it was once known and loved.
Title: Re: New swimming pool for Katelios
Post by: U4ea on Friday, 16 January, 2015 @ 12:42:48
I think it's called progress Ari.

Let's face it, if there was no change in Katelios ( or anywhere else for that matter), it's appeal would die out as those who like it as it is now die off or become too infirm to visit any longer.

Thankfully, the change there appears to be slow. The two new hotels were feared by some to be the death knell but they are now fairly well integrated. Same with the move of Nemesis to the front, again not a problem. And again, the harbour development hasn't brought huge numbers of day trippers, just 20- or 30 people twice a week.

The Glamping site has slowed and might have been stopped altogether or at least restricted in the long term.
Title: Re: New swimming pool for Katelios
Post by: Jolly Roger on Friday, 16 January, 2015 @ 22:52:40
This picture should have been with the post above, but disappeared for some reason!

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Title: Re: New swimming pool for Katelios
Post by: Maik on Saturday, 17 January, 2015 @ 02:26:44
Rog, isn't that the pic that is in your original post?
Title: Re: New swimming pool for Katelios
Post by: Aristarches on Saturday, 17 January, 2015 @ 11:52:20
I think it's called progress Ari.

Let's face it, if there was no change in Katelios ( or anywhere else for that matter), it's appeal would die out as those who like it as it is now die off or become too infirm to visit any longer.

Thankfully, the change there appears to be slow. The two new hotels were feared by some to be the death knell but they are now fairly well integrated. Same with the move of Nemesis to the front, again not a problem. And again, the harbour development hasn't brought huge numbers of day trippers, just 20- or 30 people twice a week.

The Glamping site has slowed and might have been stopped altogether or at least restricted in the long term.


I think you are confusing change with progress.  They are not synonyms.  Change has to happen to achieve progress but change doesn't necessarily bring progress.

Katelios can change in any way that the Greeks want it to although I know this suggests an element of planning wholly lacking in the Greek mentality.  As a consumer I choose to go to where I find most congenial. I would feel some misgivings not returning to Katelios as I have been visiting the village for 26 years.  Katelios can change into  another Kavos.  Is that progress?  I don't think so but I will have moved on long before that happens (I mean moved on not passed on).
Title: Re: New swimming pool for Katelios
Post by: U4ea on Saturday, 17 January, 2015 @ 12:43:06
Ari
I wrote that it was called progress. I didn't say it was progress.

In some ways progress, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder.

Like you, I'll continue to visit Katelios for as long as it meets my needs ( and these may change), and/or as long as I am able.
Title: Re: New swimming pool for Katelios
Post by: Jolly Roger on Saturday, 17 January, 2015 @ 18:34:47
Rog, isn't that the pic that is in your original post?

If so Maik, it doesn't appear on my monitor!
Title: Re: New swimming pool for Katelios
Post by: Maik on Saturday, 17 January, 2015 @ 18:49:31
Had to scale it down but this is how your first post appears to me, checked it on three PCs, logged in and logged out

(http://goinggreek.info/gallery/1_17_01_15_6_41_38.jpeg)
Title: Re: New swimming pool for Katelios
Post by: Bell on Saturday, 17 January, 2015 @ 19:07:22
Photo Ok on my laptop.
Title: Re: New swimming pool for Katelios
Post by: U4ea on Saturday, 17 January, 2015 @ 19:53:50
OK on desktop and tablet here.
Title: Re: New swimming pool for Katelios
Post by: Maik on Tuesday, 20 January, 2015 @ 17:49:41
To paraphrase our Winnie "This is not the end of the beginning but the beginning of the end".  For Katelios that is.

The first few pebbles of ruination were the sum loungers now we are threatened with an avalanche that will  destroy Katelios as it was once known and loved.

What Ari (and a few others among us) dread - piccies not of Greece but Spain, although in the present government's clamour for foreign investment and subsequent relaxation of development controls... who knows when this will happen here? Click on the 'as it was' pics to see the places now:

The costa del concrete: the Mediterranean coastline then and now – in pictures (http://www.theguardian.com/cities/ng-interactive/2015/jan/20/costa-del-concrete-mediterranean-coastline-then-now-in-pictures)
Title: Re: New swimming pool for Katelios
Post by: TonyKath on Tuesday, 20 January, 2015 @ 19:21:29
What Ari (and a few others among us) dread - piccies not of Greece but Spain, although in the present government's clamour for foreign investment and subsequent relaxation of development controls... who knows when this will happen here? Click on the 'as it was' pics to see the places now:

The costa del concrete: the Mediterranean coastline then and now – in pictures (http://www.theguardian.com/cities/ng-interactive/2015/jan/20/costa-del-concrete-mediterranean-coastline-then-now-in-pictures)

Bloody 'ell, Maik!!  I had to go for a lie-down in a darkened room after that!

To paraphrase our Winnie "This is not the end of the beginning but the beginning of the end".  For Katelios that is.

The first few pebbles of ruination were the sum loungers now we are threatened with an avalanche that will  destroy Katelios as it was once known and loved.

Ah, the strains of a familiar song, Ari!  ;)   Some changes are OK, some I even like, but there are others I would rather not have (e.g. changing the open space by the beach with the "glamping"  :bleh: ).  I know others have been coming longer to Katelios than our 20 years but we still feel it's close enough to what we found back then.  And bear in mind Greece was still far behind the rest of Europe even in 1995 in terms of development - could even end up not much different again.   :blink:

Let's hope we won't be saying about you "this was his finest hour" in 5-10 years time, Ari!!  :)

Tony
Title: Re: New swimming pool for Katelios
Post by: Aristarches on Wednesday, 21 January, 2015 @ 11:41:05
What Ari (and a few others among us) dread - piccies not of Greece but Spain, although in the present government's clamour for foreign investment and subsequent relaxation of development controls... who knows when this will happen here? Click on the 'as it was' pics to see the places now:

The costa del concrete: the Mediterranean coastline then and now – in pictures (http://www.theguardian.com/cities/ng-interactive/2015/jan/20/costa-del-concrete-mediterranean-coastline-then-now-in-pictures)

Bloody 'ell, Maik!!  I had to go for a lie-down in a darkened room after that!

To paraphrase our Winnie "This is not the end of the beginning but the beginning of the end".  For Katelios that is.

The first few pebbles of ruination were the sum loungers now we are threatened with an avalanche that will  destroy Katelios as it was once known and loved.

Ah, the strains of a familiar song, Ari!  ;)   Some changes are OK, some I even like, but there are others I would rather not have (e.g. changing the open space by the beach with the "glamping"  :bleh: ).  I know others have been coming longer to Katelios than our 20 years but we still feel it's close enough to what we found back then.  And bear in mind Greece was still far behind the rest of Europe even in 1995 in terms of development - could even end up not much different again.   :blink:

Let's hope we won't be saying about you "this was his finest hour" in 5-10 years time, Ari!!  :)

Tony

My finest hour was many years ago.  Just ask my wife.



Title: Re: New swimming pool for Katelios
Post by: Jolly Roger on Wednesday, 21 January, 2015 @ 18:03:24
The new pool is progressing quicker than Skala High street.

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Title: Re: New swimming pool for Katelios
Post by: TonyKath on Wednesday, 21 January, 2015 @ 18:41:29
Looks like more than just a hole in the ground, Roger.  Any idea what else will be there?

Tony
Title: Re: New swimming pool for Katelios
Post by: Maik on Wednesday, 21 January, 2015 @ 19:26:39
The new pool is progressing quicker than Skala High street.

 :rofl: :pml:  :yiamas:
Title: Re: New swimming pool for Katelios
Post by: Jolly Roger on Wednesday, 21 January, 2015 @ 22:07:33
Looks like more than just a hole in the ground, Roger.  Any idea what else will be there?

Tony

You are right, it does seem more than a pool. I will keep you updated on progress.
Title: Re: New swimming pool for Katelios
Post by: Aristarches on Thursday, 22 January, 2015 @ 11:23:24
When I was last in Katelios last September, when I was praying that this thing was going to be just another rumour, I was told that in addition to the pool there would be the usual accoutrements, ie sun loungers, bar, barbeque.  Costa was intending to put on quiz nights, karaoke, authentic, impromptu Greek dancing promptly at 10 on Fridays, the usual crap.  Of course, it could be far worse but I just can't think how.
Title: Re: New swimming pool for Katelios
Post by: TonyD on Thursday, 22 January, 2015 @ 11:30:48
I'm having difficulty visualising exactly where this project is.
Any chance of an annotated satellite map perhaps?

Title: Re: New swimming pool for Katelios
Post by: Maik on Thursday, 22 January, 2015 @ 11:48:54
impromptu Greek dancing promptly at 10 on Fridays

 :blink: :rofl:


Of course, it could be far worse but I just can't think how.

Ari, I've seen the future! Before coming to kef I worked in a lovely little place on the north of Corfu called San Stefanos. Very much like Katelios, maybe smaller at the time than Katelios is now, but with a better beach. Bingo and British beer was very popular with the Brit clientele.

But let your imagination run riot - how about Russkoe Loto (http://www.amazon.com/Russian-Bingo-Game-Russkoe-Loto/product-reviews/B0055DB5S8/ref=cm_cr_pr_hist_5/182-0458522-8742931?ie=UTF8&filterBy=addFiveStar&showViewpoints=0&sortBy=bySubmissionDateDescending) and Zhigulevskoe Bochkovoe (http://www.beersofeurope.co.uk/zhigulevskoe-bochkovoe)?
Title: Re: New swimming pool for Katelios
Post by: Jolly Roger on Thursday, 22 January, 2015 @ 16:56:07
Location here.............
Google Earth has 'street view' for Katelios now, so you can see what was there before.

(http://goinggreek.info/gallery/11_22_01_15_4_53_52.jpeg)
Title: Re: New swimming pool for Katelios
Post by: HiFi on Thursday, 22 January, 2015 @ 18:17:15
It could be much worse Ari - there could be people pretending to play live music under the banner keep music alive on Kefalonia which apparently the whole world has united to desire.........
Title: Re: New swimming pool for Katelios
Post by: JimW on Thursday, 22 January, 2015 @ 19:06:50
This was supposed to happen last year bur the earthquakes stopped it, I believe there we be a bar and snack food available. Notos is now with Thomas Cook who are in favour of this and are helping as opposed to Cosmos who would not. the cost of staying at Notos has risen considerably and a lot of regulars are not going back as I understand.
Title: Re: New swimming pool for Katelios
Post by: Aristarches on Friday, 23 January, 2015 @ 12:05:13
This was supposed to happen last year bur the earthquakes stopped it, I believe there we be a bar and snack food available. Notos is now with Thomas Cook who are in favour of this and are helping as opposed to Cosmos who would not. the cost of staying at Notos has risen considerably and a lot of regulars are not going back as I understand.

We do our own thing rather than use packages so I have never stayed at Notos but I have seen the rooms which are nice enough but nothing special, IMHO.   The main attraction is the location.  The problem seems to be the considerable increase in the published prices.  It was suggested that a fortnight in the middle of June would  be in the region of £650-700 each which seems excessive.  I have been told by several people who were regulars at Notos that they definitely won't be going back this year and have been considering options.  Of course, what will happen when push come to shove is another matter.  We have all considered moving on from our regular haunts but how many actually do so.

And Maik, if people want beer and bingo, even the Russian variety, they should go to Benidorm which I know from personal experience is even worse that that bloody awful TV programme
Title: Re: New swimming pool for Katelios
Post by: Jolly Roger on Saturday, 21 February, 2015 @ 22:04:48
Concrete poured and shuttering removed.

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Title: Re: New swimming pool for Katelios
Post by: Aristarches on Sunday, 22 February, 2015 @ 11:05:11
This appears to be quite a project, mainly because it is squeezed in between various properties but if you compare it too other swimming pool and bar areas around the valley then it will be quite small, perhaps even smaller than the Mythos.

I hope it is finished by the time I go back in June.  I can, perhaps, put up with the sounds of idiot tourists enjoying a pool when the sea and beach is only yards away  but cement mixers all day would be too much.   
Title: Re: New swimming pool for Katelios
Post by: Jolly Roger on Monday, 23 February, 2015 @ 11:23:35
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Anyone that thinks Notos too expensive, might like to consider the new studios in Katelios. Aligis Studios seems to be reasonably priced and is with Thomson.
Title: Re: New swimming pool for Katelios
Post by: Mary on Monday, 23 February, 2015 @ 11:54:27
Looks very nice, Rog!  :btu: Here's what Thomson say:

Quote
Aligis Studios open their doors in summer 2015, and they’re set to showcase contemporary décor and a smart pool area.

This place is brand new for summer 2015. It’s set to have a full revamp, with a modern minimalist look throughout. Bedrooms will feature bleached wood furniture and muslin-topped four-poster beds.

From the front door of the hotel, you can walk to Katelios’ shops, bars and restaurants in around five minutes. The village’s sand-and-shingle beach is just a little further on.

LOCATION

    50m to the bus stop
    300m from restaurants, bars and a supermarket
    500m from the beach



(http://goinggreek.info/gallery/5_23_02_15_11_48_50.jpeg)
http://www.thomson.co.uk/destinations/europe/greece/kefalonia/katelios/apartments/aligis-studios.html

 :hmm:
Title: Re: New swimming pool for Katelios
Post by: HiFi on Monday, 23 February, 2015 @ 12:33:53
Didn't have my glasses on and thought it said muslim topped four poster beds  :unsure:
Title: Re: New swimming pool for Katelios
Post by: Annie P on Monday, 23 February, 2015 @ 13:53:20
I wonder if they provide plug in kitchen sink. Wherever we stay, we never seem to get one!
Title: Re: New swimming pool for Katelios
Post by: HiFi on Monday, 23 February, 2015 @ 14:09:45
an electrical sink?
Title: Re: New swimming pool for Katelios
Post by: Mary on Monday, 23 February, 2015 @ 15:12:54
Wow, that'd socket to me!
Title: Re: New swimming pool for Katelios
Post by: TonyKath on Monday, 23 February, 2015 @ 15:34:25
Sorry - can't place where it would be.  500m from the beach puts it up near Jerry's or possibly even nearer to the Mythos.

Tony
Title: Re: New swimming pool for Katelios
Post by: jed.w on Monday, 23 February, 2015 @ 16:04:04
According to TripAdvisor, Thomson's don't know where they are either!
Title: Re: New swimming pool for Katelios
Post by: Mary on Monday, 23 February, 2015 @ 16:10:36
According to TripAdvisor, Thomson's don't know where they are either!
:pml:

Going by the map, looks more like it's on the Katelios end of Mounda beach and the time to Katelios was guestimated on Mo Farah staying there.
Title: Re: New swimming pool for Katelios
Post by: Mary on Monday, 23 February, 2015 @ 16:48:18
Piccie from the Thomson website of Aligis pool:

(http://goinggreek.info/gallery/5_23_02_15_4_41_04.jpeg)

Nice, open view but, from what I can see, it's a *planned* view not an actual view. So the gas works opposite aren't shown, rather than been Photoshoped out  ;)
Title: Re: New swimming pool for Katelios
Post by: TonyKath on Monday, 23 February, 2015 @ 19:21:35
I know - the gas works is the only thing that lets Katelios down!  :lol:

Tony
Title: Re: New swimming pool for Katelios
Post by: Jolly Roger on Monday, 23 February, 2015 @ 22:45:02
Sorry - can't place where it would be.  500m from the beach puts it up near Jerry's or possibly even nearer to the Mythos.

Tony

Just up the road from Utopia on the left Tony. This is a Google street view of what it currently looks like.
It has been like this for several years now, but seems now they have found the money to finish it.

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Title: Re: New swimming pool for Katelios
Post by: Aristarches on Tuesday, 24 February, 2015 @ 10:57:15
Sorry - can't place where it would be.  500m from the beach puts it up near Jerry's or possibly even nearer to the Mythos.

Tony

Just up the road from Utopia on the left Tony. This is a Google street view of what it currently looks like.
It has been like this for several years now, but seems now they have found the money to finish it.

(http://goinggreek.info/gallery/11_23_02_15_10_44_03.jpeg)


Blimey, have they finally finished that place?  It has been in various stages of being built since I started going to Katelios.
Title: Re: New swimming pool for Katelios
Post by: TonyKath on Tuesday, 24 February, 2015 @ 13:49:19
Thanks Roger - walked past it many times.  It's probably less than 500 m to the beach if you cut through via Dreams - but it is near the bust stop.

Tony
Title: Re: New swimming pool for Katelios
Post by: Mary on Tuesday, 24 February, 2015 @ 16:31:51
Yes, thanks for that, Rog. Tony likes to be abreast of these things.
Title: Re: New swimming pool for Katelios
Post by: TonyKath on Tuesday, 24 February, 2015 @ 19:16:53
Yes, thanks for that, Rog. Tony likes to be abreast of these things.

Oops!  :oops:

Tony
Title: Re: New swimming pool for Katelios
Post by: JimW on Saturday, 04 April, 2015 @ 20:02:26
Hi Roger, what’s happening with the new pool.
Title: Re: New swimming pool for Katelios
Post by: Jolly Roger on Sunday, 12 April, 2015 @ 19:27:56
Work on the Notos pool is progressing and here is the latest photo.

(http://goinggreek.info/gallery/11_12_04_15_7_24_24.jpeg)
Title: Re: New swimming pool for Katelios
Post by: jeanskala on Sunday, 12 April, 2015 @ 19:31:57
Work on the Notos pool is progressing and here is the latest photo.

(http://goinggreek.info/gallery/11_12_04_15_7_24_24.jpeg)

It looks tiny, was it really worth all that time, money and effort...?! :oki:
Title: Re: New swimming pool for Katelios
Post by: Jolly Roger on Sunday, 12 April, 2015 @ 19:46:50
Work on the Notos pool is progressing and here is the latest photo.

(http://goinggreek.info/gallery/11_12_04_15_7_24_24.jpeg)

It looks tiny, was it really worth all that time, money and effort...?! :oki:

Kostas is an accountant, so if he doesn't know, who does?
Title: Re: New swimming pool for Katelios
Post by: jeanskala on Sunday, 12 April, 2015 @ 20:07:39
Work on the Notos pool is progressing and here is the latest photo.

(http://goinggreek.info/gallery/11_12_04_15_7_24_24.jpeg)

I know, that's why I changed accountant!!


It looks tiny, was it really worth all that time, money and effort...?! :oki:

Kostas is an accountant, so if he doesn't know, who does?
Title: Re: New swimming pool for Katelios
Post by: TonyD on Sunday, 12 April, 2015 @ 22:27:24
Right, that's the paddling pool done. What's next?
Title: Re: New swimming pool for Katelios
Post by: Maik on Sunday, 26 April, 2015 @ 15:35:34
It looks tiny

Bit hard to tell from the photos but, er, yes, it is a bit dinky. Doesn't look like much progress since Rog's last pic:

(http://goinggreek.info/gallery/1_26_04_15_3_24_25.jpeg)


Dreams (top centre), Utopia, Aligis (centre), Hara (bottom left), Efrosini (bottom right). Still some work to do at Aligis...

(http://goinggreek.info/gallery/1_26_04_15_3_28_17.jpeg)
Title: Re: New swimming pool for Katelios
Post by: TonyKath on Sunday, 26 April, 2015 @ 19:33:02
Just think - the top 3/4 of that pic was empty until a few years ago!!

Tony
Title: Re: New swimming pool for Katelios
Post by: Jolly Roger on Thursday, 21 May, 2015 @ 22:43:53
Latest pictures, filling the pool!

(http://goinggreek.info/gallery/11_21_05_15_10_40_48.jpeg)

(http://goinggreek.info/gallery/11_21_05_15_10_41_11.jpeg)
Title: Re: New swimming pool for Katelios
Post by: TonyKath on Friday, 22 May, 2015 @ 19:11:18
Thanks Roger.  Small but perfectly formed, as they say!  (The pool, not Roger, ;) )

Tony
Title: Re: New swimming pool for Katelios
Post by: Aristarches on Saturday, 30 May, 2015 @ 09:03:37
The pool is open for business.  The only problem is the bloody humming of the filter(?) which will be very annoying to any punters staying at or near the Notos.  That's progress. I suppose!
Title: Re: New swimming pool for Katelios
Post by: jed.w on Sunday, 31 May, 2015 @ 13:17:22
Just turn up the Rap Music Ari!  :flyer: