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The Agora => Greek News => Topic started by: Maik on Monday, 13 July, 2015 @ 00:27:03
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Killing the European Project
Suppose you consider Tsipras an incompetent twerp. Suppose you dearly want to see Syriza out of power. Suppose, even, that you welcome the prospect of pushing those annoying Greeks out of the euro.
Even if all of that is true, this Eurogroup list of demands (https://twitter.com/EdConwaySky/status/620272062771429377/photo/1) is madness. The trending hashtag ThisIsACoup (https://twitter.com/hashtag/ThisIsACoup?src=hash) is exactly right. This goes beyond harsh into pure vindictiveness, complete destruction of national sovereignty, and no hope of relief. It is, presumably, meant to be an offer Greece can’t accept; but even so, it’s a grotesque betrayal of everything the European project was supposed to stand for.
Who will ever trust Germany’s good intentions after this?
The European project — a project I have always praised and supported — has just been dealt a terrible, perhaps fatal blow. And whatever you think of Syriza, or Greece, it wasn’t the Greeks who did it.
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com//2015/07/12/killing-the-european-project/
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https://twitter.com/JeroenSluiter1/status/620340095091130368
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I'm not an international diplomat. But the pain and political machinations that have been played out overr the last few days are an absolute disgrace perpetrated by an unelected group of fiscal fiends with an agenda for control and dominance over smaller nations in the eurozone. IMHO our favourite little loony bin should just cut and run. Dammed if they do and dammed if they don't. Be proud Greece ! Again IMHO.
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Trust Krauts? Has anybody trusted a Kraut since Munich? And as for the French, who the hell in history has ever trusted them!
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No, the Greek agreement is not a coup and if you think it is, you're an idiot
Likening today's German government to the Nazi regime is offensively stupid
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/greece/11735990/No-the-Greek-agreement-is-not-a-coup-and-if-you-think-it-is-youre-an-idiot.html
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No, the Greek agreement is not a coup and if you think it is, you're an idiot
Likening today's German government to the Nazi regime is offensively stupid
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/greece/11735990/No-the-Greek-agreement-is-not-a-coup-and-if-you-think-it-is-youre-an-idiot.html
Being one of the UK's oldest fascist rags, it would say that wouldn't it!
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.....A few things that many of us took for granted, and that some of us believed in, ended in a single weekend. By forcing Alexis Tsipras into a humiliating defeat, Greece’s creditors have done a lot more than bring about regime change in Greece or endanger its relations with the eurozone. They destroyed the eurozone as we know it. They demolished the idea of a monetary union as a step towards a democratic political union and reverted to the nationalist European power struggles of the 19th and early 20th century. They demoted the eurozone into a toxic fixed exchange-rate system, with a shared single currency, run in the interests of Germany, held together by the threat of absolute destitution for those who challenge the prevailing order. The best thing that can be said of the weekend is the brutal honesty of those perpetrating this regime change ......
Wolfgang Münchau
The Financial Times
Wolfgang Münchau is an associate editor of the Financial Times, where he writes a weekly column about the European Union and the European economy.
Before taking up this position in September 2003, he was co-editor of Financial Times Deutschland for two years.
Before joining FT Deutschland, Mr Münchau was a Frankfurt correspondent and later economics correspondent of the Financial Times,
reporting on the preparation for the final stage of monetary union and the launch of the euro.
SandyBay
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To be fair Ari the guy from the 'Tele' makes some valid points. But ! Call it what you will, a stitch up is a stitch up in anyone's language and I know one when I see one. Just hope to God they can sort it out and get it through parliament to put some stability back into the country. Fair,no. Just,debatable. Democratic,no coz it's a bloody stitch up to ensure the money men wring every last € back out of them at any cost. As I've said before Eurozone, s..t idea in the first place and now it's coming home to roost with the Greeks and southern Europe hanging in there by their fingertips. Wot a farce !
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From Reuters this afternoon....
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/07/14/uk-eurozone-greece-idUKKBN0P40FR20150714 (http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/07/14/uk-eurozone-greece-idUKKBN0P40FR20150714)
SandyBay
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For anyone who's got the time and interest, four recent vid clips (about 15 mins each) directed by Theopi Skarlatos, produced by Paul Mason:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTClMptZJE0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOM6jONVZwg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUbrV-gdv9A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CR_kvr0x5MA
Yianis Varoufakis: #THIS IS A COUP – My comments on Paul Mason’s documentary (http://yanisvaroufakis.eu/2015/12/19/this-is-a-coup-my-comments-on-paul-masons-documentary/)
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Radio 4 had a dramatisation of last summer's events on Fri 18th. I only heard the last 20 inutes but it's available on catch up at http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06s1s5x#play
Now need time to watch the vids!
Tony