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Title: 27/01/19
Post by: Maik on Sunday, 27 January, 2019 @ 03:04:09
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Martial law plans looked at in case of no-deal Brexit

Preparations are being looked at for the possible imposition of martial law after a no-deal Brexit, it has emerged.

The move has been described by sources as the civil service “prepping” for all possibilities.

The revelation came as further Government splits emerged over whether Britain should quit the EU without an agreement as Defence Minister Tobias Ellwood broke ranks and insisted a no deal scenario must be ruled out.
https://www.itv.com/news/2019-01-27/martial-law-plans-looked-at-in-case-of-no-deal-brexit/

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Title: Re: 27/01/19
Post by: Maik on Sunday, 27 January, 2019 @ 03:06:46
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One in 20 does not believe Holocaust took place – survey

One in 20 UK adults does not believe the Holocaust took place, a survey suggests, while one in 12 believes its scale has been exaggerated.

Almost two-thirds of respondents (64%) either could not say how many Jews were murdered or “grossly” under-estimated the number, a survey of more than 2,000 people by the Holocaust Memorial Day Trust (HMDT) found.

On Sunday, hundreds of thousands of people, including survivors, politicians and members of the public, will gather to mark Holocaust Memorial Day and remember its six million Jewish victims.
https://www.itv.com/news/2019-01-27/one-in-20-does-not-believe-holocaust-took-place-survey/
Title: Re: 27/01/19
Post by: Jolly Roger on Sunday, 27 January, 2019 @ 08:34:04
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Martial law plans looked at in case of no-deal Brexit

Preparations are being looked at for the possible imposition of martial law after a no-deal Brexit, it has emerged.

The move has been described by sources as the civil service “prepping” for all possibilities.

The revelation came as further Government splits emerged over whether Britain should quit the EU without an agreement as Defence Minister Tobias Ellwood broke ranks and insisted a no deal scenario must be ruled out.
https://www.itv.com/news/2019-01-27/martial-law-plans-looked-at-in-case-of-no-deal-brexit/

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Martial law should be considered if MPs vote against leaving the EU. There could be civil disturbance if people did not get the result they had voted for.
Title: Re: 27/01/19
Post by: Maik on Sunday, 27 January, 2019 @ 14:46:49
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English sparkling wine to go global after record grape harvest as vineyard eyes Asian markets

It has already been beating French Champagne in taste tests.

Now thanks to climate change and the south of England’s chalky soils, English sparkling wine is set to go global following a record grape harvest last year.

Nyetimber, the UK’s leading producer, has announced plans to expand to Asia and India this autumn.

It follows a 400 per cent rise in sales following growing demand from Europe and America for home-made fizz, with England set to become one of the world’s leading producers of wine by 2100.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/01/26/english-sparkling-wine-go-global-record-grape-harvest-vineyard/

Title: Re: 27/01/19
Post by: Maik on Sunday, 27 January, 2019 @ 14:52:35
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British Museum ‘rules out’ returning Elgin Marbles to Greece after country demands UK opens negotiations
Jeremy Corbyn has pledged to give back statues if he becomes prime minister

The director of the British Museum has appeared to rule out returning the Elgin Marbles to Greece after its government demanded Britain open negotiations over their return last year.

The 2,500-year-old marble sculptures were removed from the Parthenon Temple on the Acropolis in Athens by the Ottoman ambassador Lord Elgin in the early 1800s.

Lord Elgin sold the marbles to the British government, who passed them on to the British Museum in 1817 where they remain one of its most prized exhibits.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/elgin-marbles-british-museum-return-greece-parthenon-acropolis-controversy-corbyn-a8748296.html
Title: Re: 27/01/19
Post by: TonyKath on Sunday, 27 January, 2019 @ 15:23:17
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Martial law plans looked at in case of no-deal Brexit

Preparations are being looked at for the possible imposition of martial law after a no-deal Brexit, it has emerged.

The move has been described by sources as the civil service “prepping” for all possibilities.

The revelation came as further Government splits emerged over whether Britain should quit the EU without an agreement as Defence Minister Tobias Ellwood broke ranks and insisted a no deal scenario must be ruled out.
https://www.itv.com/news/2019-01-27/martial-law-plans-looked-at-in-case-of-no-deal-brexit/ (https://www.itv.com/news/2019-01-27/martial-law-plans-looked-at-in-case-of-no-deal-brexit/)

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Martial law should be considered if MPs vote against leaving the EU. There could be civil disturbance if people did not get the result they had voted for.
How has it come to this?  :oki:

 Martial law would be disastrous for Briain's standing in the world, business confidence and the value of the pound.  Even Greece has not come to that.  Marial law means restrictions on citizens' movement, association, rights to trial and  protection from arbitrary arrest.  Anyone fancy curfews in Britain's cities with the army rounding up and detaining curfew breakers - or even in Tunbridge Wells which voted Remain in 2016.  I think not.  Britain, like Greece likes to think of itself as the home of Democracy.  I don't think it will happen and talk of martial law is mostly "shroud waving", partly to attack the arguments of one side or other.  Did any of us voting in the referendum ever consider it as a possibility?  I didn't hear a slogan saying "Vote Leave/Remain - get martial law".

Tony
Title: Re: 27/01/19
Post by: TonyD on Sunday, 27 January, 2019 @ 16:49:45
More threats....can't imagine any of this nonsense in France...."we've voted, just get on with it"

Two observations re. the BrExit malarkey;

In the event the nonsensical People's Vote idea is enacted, and given the populace have already indicated their choice to Leave, shouldn't any subsequent vote be just two questions?
Leave with No Deal, or Leave with the Deal currently on offer
The whinging, moaning, angry faced Remainers seem to think "Stay a member of the EU" should be an offer. What the....

Similarly, and in the event there is an oh so very EU "keep voting till you give us the answer we want" episode, what happens when Leave wins again?
Does it all go back to square one? Another two years of and floundering flapping about?

I'm looking forward to the next general election, where the winners are greeted by "mmm, but you didn't win by very much, so we'll have to do it again" or "foul! foul! the sheep didn't understand what they were voting for" or "can't we just do it by Twitter and Facebook polls?"

Confused, of Royal Tunbridge Wells
Title: Re: 27/01/19
Post by: Maik on Monday, 28 January, 2019 @ 02:02:03
"The move has been described by sources as the civil service “prepping” for all possibilities."

I've read a few comments like that. I have to wonder how much all this " prepping for all possibilities" is going to cost us.

Mind you, when the gov awards a ferry contract to a firm with no ferries, little chance of using the two ports it names and with T&C copied from Abdul's curry house the 'prepping' *shouldn't* be costing much.

Now a threat of martial law.

Welcome to brave new Britain, the banana democracy.

Title: Re: 27/01/19
Post by: TonyKath on Monday, 28 January, 2019 @ 23:00:27
To be fair, Maik, it was Luigi's pizza place.  :btd:   


Tony